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Saturday, June 9, 2012

Kurdish Y-DNA Part VI

Just a new update (highlighted in yellow):


1x E1b1b1c1a (Alevi Kurmanji from Dersim/Turkey)
1x G2a (Alevi Kurmanji from Turkey)
2x J1 (Feyli, originally from Iran)
1x J1c3 (Sorani from Iran)
1x J2 (Kurmanji from Turkey)
1x J2a3a (J2a1a at 23andme; J2a4a at ISOGG 2009; he is M47+, M322+)(Yezidi from Iraq)
1x T (Sorani from Koysinjaq/Iraq)
1x R2a (Sorani from Sulaymaniyah/Iraq)
1x R1b1a2* (Kurmanji from Zakho/Iraq)
1x R1b1b2a (Zaza from Turkey)
1x R1b1 (P25+)(Kurmanji from Maras/Elbistan/Turkey)
1x R1a1a (Z93+, L342+, L657-)(Sorani from Sulaymaniyah/Iraq)
1x R1a1a (Z283+, Z282+, Z284-, M458-, Z280-, subclade 3  only his paternal great-grandfather is Kurdish from Turkey)
1x R1a1a (Alevi Zaza from Dersim/Turkey)
1x R1a1a (Alevi Kurmanji from Dersim/Turkey)
1x I2a2a* (old I2b1*; L1229-, L1230-) (Sorani from Sulaymaniyah/Iraq)

The mutations Z282 and Z283 in Y-haplogroup R1a1a seem to have pretty much the same age.

The "Roots group" of the haplogroup I2a2a* (old I2b1*) in Europe seem to be L1229+ (group "1.1") or L1230+(group "1.2"), at least in the FTDNA I2b1/M223 Y-CLAN STUDY. The Sorani Kurd (at the bottom of the list above) was part of this group but turned out to be L1229- and L1230-. He is now in group "1.6".

The tree presented in the results part of the I2b1/M223 Y-CLAN STUDY shows the details/relationships of the different groups of I2a2a*. The position of the mentioned Sorani Kurd is highlighted in bold.

1- M223* (Roots-X)
1.1- L1229* (Roots)
1.1.1- L812* (Roots Group 1a/446 = 8, 438 = 8)
1.1.1.1- L319 (Roots Group 1a/446 = 8, 438 = 8)
1.1.2- L1230* (Roots Group 2a/446 = 9, 531 = 11)
1.2- Z161
1.2.1- L801
1.2.1.1- Z76* (Cont2a, Cont2to1, Cont1-X)
1.2.1.1.1- Z78* (Cont1-XX)
1.2.1.1.1.1- L1198 (Cont1, Cont1a, Cont1b)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1- Z79 (Cont1c)
1.2.1.1.2- P95 (Cont2b)
1.2.1.1.3- L1201 (Cont2b)
1.2.2- L623, L147.4 (Cont2c)
1.3- P78 (Cont3a)
1.3.1- L484 (Cont3a)
1.4- M284/L1195
1.4.1- L1193* (Isles E)
1.4.1.2 L1194 (Isles E)
1.4.2- L126, L137, L369 (Isles Limbo, Isles Sc)
1.5- L1228 (I2b1-X)
1.5.1- L1227 (I2b1-X)
1.6- L699/L701/L702/L703 (I2b1-XX)
1.6.1- L704 (I2b1-XX)
1.6.1.1- L1226 (I2b1-XX)


Update: The tree of I2a2a*-M223 was changed again. The position of the mentioned Sorani Kurd is highlighted in bold. I have my doubts about his position in group 1.3.2.

1.- M223* (Roots-X)
1.1- L1229* (Roots)
1.1.1- L812* (Roots Group 1a/446 = 8, 438 = 8)
1.1.1.1- L319 (Roots Group 1a/446 = 8, 438 = 8)
1.1.2- L1230 (Roots Group 2a Section 1/446 = 9, 531 = 11)
1.2- Z161
1.2.1- L801
1.2.1.1- Z76* (Cont2a, Cont2to1, Cont1-X)
1.2.1.1.1- Z78* (Cont1-XX)
1.2.1.1.1.1- L1198 (Cont1, Cont1a, Cont1b)
1.2.1.1.1.1.1- Z79 (Cont1c)
1.2.1.1.2- P95 (Cont2b)
1.2.1.1.3- L1201 (Cont2b)
1.2.2- L623, L147.4 (Cont2c)
1.3- L701/L702
1.3.1- P78 (Cont3a)
1.3.1.1- L484 (Cont3a)
1.3.2- L699/L703 (I2b1-XX)
1.3.2.1- L704 (I2b1-XX1)
1.3.2.1.1- L1226 (I2b1-XX1)
1.4- M284/L1195
1.4.1- L1193* (Isles E)
1.4.1.2 L1194 (Isles E)
1.4.2- L126, L137, L369 (Isles Limbo, Isles Sc)
1.5- L1228 (I2b1-X)
1.5.1- L1227 (I2b1-X) 


Update June 22nd, 2012:
All recommended SNPs for group 1.3.2 (see above) turned out to be negative for the Sorani Kurd. He is L1226-, L699-, L701-, L702-, L703-, L704-, so he does not belong to this 1.3.2 group, either.  Previously, he turned out to be L1229- and L1230- as well. The M233 tree at FTDNA needs to be updated, he belongs to group "1.- M223* (Roots-X)".

All these tested SNPs were observed in European M233 individuals but not in Asia. He is now testing M379, a SNP that was observed once in a sample from Pakistan (but nowhere else). This has been suggested by the  Group Administrator of the FTDNA I2b1/M223 Y-CLAN Project.


More data can be found here:
Kurdish Y-DNA Part I
Kurdish Y-DNA Part II
Kurdish Y-DNA Part III
Kurdish Y-DNA Part IV
Kurdish Y-DNA Part V

Kurdish Y-DNA Part VII
Kurdish Y-DNA Part VIII

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